{"id":251152,"date":"2017-06-14T13:33:30","date_gmt":"2017-06-14T17:33:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/?p=251152"},"modified":"2021-04-23T12:30:16","modified_gmt":"2021-04-23T16:30:16","slug":"really-motivates-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/really-motivates-us\/","title":{"rendered":"What really motivates us"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s a question of carrot or stick. Or possibly neither.<\/p>\n<p>What really motivates us? Humans have pondered this question for decades. Is it money, power, and fame? Or rather fear and punishment? Psychologists\u2019 answers have varied, along with a broad transformation in prevailing views.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe whole field of motivation has changed over the last 40 years, from thinking about how you can control people from the outside to thinking how you can really facilitate and support people\u2019s commitment and engagement in activities,\u201d says <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sas.rochester.edu\/psy\/people\/faculty\/ryan_richard\/index.html\">Richard Ryan<\/a>, a clinical psychologist and professor of clinical and social sciences in psychology at the University of Rochester.<\/p>\n<p>Together with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sas.rochester.edu\/psy\/people\/faculty\/deci_edward\/index.html\">Edward Deci<\/a>, the University\u2019s Helen F. and Fred H. Gowen Professor in the Social Sciences, the two psychologists are the founders of <a href=\"http:\/\/selfdeterminationtheory.org\/\">self-determination theory<\/a> (SDT) and most recently the authors of the authoritative 700-plus-page volume <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.guilford.com\/books\/Self-Determination-Theory\/Ryan-Deci\/9781462528769\/contents\">Self-Determination Theory: Basic Psychological Needs in Motivation, Development, and Wellness<\/a> <\/em>(Guilford Press, 2017).<\/p>\n<p>Developed by Ryan and Deci nearly four decades ago, self-determination theory has become one of the most widely accepted theories of human motivation in contemporary behavioral science. Its starting point is the idea that all humans have the natural\u2014or intrinsic\u2014tendency to behave in effective and healthful ways. To date, their research has been cited several hundred-thousands of times, spawning thousands of clinical experiments and studies worldwide.<\/p>\n<p>Central to SDT is the distinction between two types of motivation\u2014autonomous motivation (sometimes also called intrinsic motivation) and controlled motivation. \u201cAutonomous motivation has to do with engaging in an activity with a full sense of willingness and volition,\u201d Deci explains. \u201cWhereas controlled motivation means doing something with the experience of pressure and obligation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The evidence-based theory holds that all humans have a basic need for autonomy, competence, and relatedness. In a nutshell: Research by the pair (and inspired by them) suggests that we need to feel that we can succeed at a task and that we are making progress towards that success\u2014what they call competence. Meaningful options as we work toward that competence constitute our autonomy. Lastly, we need to feel that our efforts are recognized by others and that we are part of something beyond ourselves\u2014what Ryan and Deci have termed interpersonal relatedness.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/5441252\/height\/90\/width\/640\/theme\/custom\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/87A93A\/\" width=\"640\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em>Listen to the full interview with professors Richard Ryan and Edward Deci in an interview hosted by University QuadCast host Sandra Knispel. Deci and Ryan discuss the principles of intrinsic motivation, why money is often a poor incentive, and how neuropsychology is now able to show on MRIs what they have been able to study in experiments for decades.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s the enduring pull of the theory for today\u2019s researchers? \u201cI think there\u2019s a lot of control in the world,\u201d says Deci. \u201cThere are a lot of people who are trying to push others around\u2014in organizations, in politics, in homes. And a lot of people are paying attention to this other point of view [SDT] because they don\u2019t like the control they find in so many aspects of their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>SDT is more than a theoretical construct. Deci and Ryan, along with independent scientists around the globe and across several sub-specialties, have found many real-life applications for SDT in areas ranging from parenting, to workplace organization, to health care, wellness, sports, education and virtual worlds.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of the things that we see in high-quality motivation, no matter the domain, is that people are passionate about what they are doing and they really value it,\u201d explains Ryan. Regardless of whether SDT is applied to employees, patients, students, athletes, or one\u2019s own children, Ryan says, it\u2019s important that people engage whole-heartedly in what they are doing. \u201cIt\u2019s that high quality motivation that comes from the inside.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The two SDT pioneers have studied practical ways in which parents, managers, coaches, and teachers can help or hinder motivation in others in ways that will either improve the person\u2019s effectiveness, engagement, and sense of well-being, or have the opposite effect.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want people as agentic as possible,\u201d says Ryan. Add to that the necessary ingredient of autonomy\u2014one of the key points on which SDT pivots and which the duo believes to be a fundamental and universal psychological need\u2014 and you\u2019ll have the basic recipe for motivation.<\/p>\n<p>Giving people a good reason to do what they are doing, why it\u2019s valuable or useful, is key to helping the individual take ownership and be excited about what they are doing. \u201cUnfortunately, so often when people try to motivate others they take responsibility rather than helping the person find responsibility themselves,\u201d Ryan describes a frequent pitfall.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_251222\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-251222\" style=\"width: 1000px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-251222 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2010-05-25_RichardRyan_and_EdwardDeci_205.jpg\" alt=\"photo of Richard Ryan and Edward Deci\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2010-05-25_RichardRyan_and_EdwardDeci_205.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2010-05-25_RichardRyan_and_EdwardDeci_205-193x117.jpg 193w, https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2010-05-25_RichardRyan_and_EdwardDeci_205-630x378.jpg 630w, https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2010-05-25_RichardRyan_and_EdwardDeci_205-768x461.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-251222\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">University of Rochester professors Richard Ryan and Edward Deci are the founders of Self-Determination Theory, one of the most widely accepted theories of human motivation in contemporary behavioral science.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Now at the apex of their careers, Deci and Ryan, have not always been titans in their field. When, as young scientists in the late 1970s, they first began to question the behaviorist school of motivation, their theory was greeted by sizable skepticism, sometimes even outright condescension.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, it was met by a lot of critiques,\u201d Ryan acknowledges. \u201cBut I think a lot of the tension in the field was about these anomalies [such as curiosity and exploration] that behaviorism just couldn\u2019t explain.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For several decades beginning in the 1950s, the behaviorists dominated the study of motivation to the near exclusion of any other theory, with their research focused on how the provision of rewards affects and conditions human behavior. But Ryan and Deci doubted the veracity of the theory. They found the opposite to be true: that rewards such as prizes and money were not only less effective than behavioral psychologists had hitherto believed, but under some circumstances could actually\u00a0<em>diminish<\/em>\u00a0people\u2019s engagement and motivation.<\/p>\n<p>Ryan and Deci\u2019s first book <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.springer.com\/us\/book\/9780306420221\">Intrinsic Motivation and Self-Determination in Human Behavior<\/a><\/em> (Springer US, 1985) seemed a Copernican turn in itself, repudiating the dominant theory. Realizing they were on thin ice, both agreed early on to stick to things they could empirically substantiate. \u201cNo speculating,\u201d Ryan sums up their early-career rule. Show\u2014don\u2019t tell became their professional mantra.<\/p>\n<p>Their early work helped establish the duo as a team to be reckoned with. In 1969, the young Deci, in search of a PhD thesis and fascinated by what drives motivation, used Soma puzzle cubes, a then popular Parker Brothers game, for a study on the effectiveness of rewards. He found that when money is used as an external reward for a specific activity, the test subjects ultimately lose their intrinsic interest.<\/p>\n<p>In this landmark study, Deci asked two groups of participants to reproduce the requested puzzle combinations as seen in provided images\u2014and watched how they behaved from outside the rooms. On day one both groups performed the task without any external reward. The second day, he offered to pay the participants in one group, based on their success. As expected, the monetary reward delivered a short-lived boost to the group\u2019s attempts at solving the puzzles. But by the next day, the effect had worn off. When Deci announced that he had no more money left to pay, this group was less motivated than the group that had never been paid. Worse, the compensated group paid less attention to the puzzles on day three\u2014than they had on day one of the experiment, before money had been held out as an inducement. Meanwhile, the uncompensated group\u2019s interest in the puzzles actually increased. Deci\u2019s conclusion? Rewards such as cash can actually <em>reduce<\/em> a person\u2019s longer-term motivation to continue a given project.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, the conclusion was highly controversial, but Deci was off and running. A short time later, he was joined by Ryan, a clinical psychologist who shared these sensibilities about the importance of autonomy in motivation. Together they built a broader and deeper theory, becoming lifelong collaborators.<\/p>\n<p>Later, conflicts arose with cross-cultural theorists, particularly those who argued against universal truths in human motivation, recalls Ryan. He and Deci, along with many other researchers, responded to the critique by testing SDT across many cultural contexts. The results of those studies upheld the core principles of their theory.<\/p>\n<p>But controversy is par for the course, they both agree. Adds Deci: \u201cI have to say that it\u2019s been fun. I mean having controversies, and dialogues, and debates. It\u2019s an aspect of how you proceed with scientific psychology.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>His enthusiasm palpable, Ryan notes that in recent years, neuropsychology has opened up an entirely new window into studying (and substantiating) SDT.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll types of motivation are reflected in the brain. When people are highly intrinsically motivated there\u2019s a lot of activation in their dopaminergic system, which really means the brain systems that are associated with pleasure and rewards.\u201d When people have their basic psychological needs satisfied and difficult decisions to make, they have more access to the areas of the brain where self-knowledge is located, which is needed for effective decision making, Ryan explains. The new neuropsychological evidence, visible through magnetic resonance imaging, helps psychologists fine tune some of their thinking, making it a \u201cbeautiful interface because both can inform each other.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Does he ever feel vindicated by what MRIs can now show about their theory?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf there\u2019s any sense of \u2018I told you so\u2019\u2014well, there\u2019s always gratification when things turn out to be right,\u201d Ryan smiles. \u201cBut I guess we\u2019re pretty much always focused on the things we still have to do and the refinements that still have to be made.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think we\u2019ve believed in what we are doing from the start,\u201d Deci adds. \u201cAnd we keep at it.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is it money, power, and fame? Or rather fear and punishment? 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