{"id":405152,"date":"2019-10-31T14:58:18","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:58:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/?p=405152"},"modified":"2019-11-01T08:10:07","modified_gmt":"2019-11-01T12:10:07","slug":"leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\/","title":{"rendered":"Pioneer urges women audio engineers to \u2018raise your hands\u2019 at every opportunity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It is 10 a.m. on a Sunday morning and every seat is occupied in the control room of the new recording studio in Gavett Hall.<\/p>\n<p>More than 30 audio and music engineering students at the <a href=\"\/\/www.rochester.edu\/\">University of Rochester<\/a> have turned out for a master class by four-time Grammy Award winner <a href=\"\/\/www.skysound.com\/people\/leslie-ann-jones\/\">Leslie Ann Jones<\/a>, who 40 years ago began pioneering a place for women as audio engineers and producers in the recording industry.<\/p>\n<p>Jones, the director of music recording and scoring at <a href=\"\/\/www.skysound.com\/\">Skywalker Sound<\/a>, is impressed that nearly half the students are women.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLook at the number of women in this room,\u201d she says. \u201cThat\u2019s really astounding to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, at the start of her career, Leslie Ann Jones was the <em>only<\/em> woman in a control room.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>\u00a0\u2018Power in making things sound better\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Jones is the daughter of Spike Jones, the musical satirist whose band became famous in the 1940s and \u201950s for its comedic renditions of popular songs and classical music, including gunshots, cowbells and outlandish vocals. Her mother is Helen Grayco, who was a singer in the band.<\/p>\n<p>Leslie Jones also aspired to be a musician. Starting at age 14, she played electric guitar and sang backup vocals in bands with her brother and cousins during the 1960s in Los Angeles. They were good enough to be signed by various labels, but none of their songs were ever released.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI needed to figure out a way to make a living,\u201d Jones explained during a lecture sponsored by the <a href=\"https:\/\/ccc.rochester.edu\/aes\/home\/\">Audio Engineering Society<\/a> student chapter. She decided to concentrate on \u201cdoing the sound\u201d for other bands. \u00a0\u201cThere was something about having a console, putting my hands on faders, and being able to rebalance background vocals and make things sound different. There was a lot of power in this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, in the early 1970s, at least in the major recording studies, that power was wielded exclusively by men. \u201cAt that time there were no women engineers at any of the major label studios that I know of,\u201d Jones says. \u201cMost women were doing classical music and were considered balance engineers. They weren\u2019t producing projects, and I don\u2019t think they were editing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jones was not deterred. She read <em>Stereo Review<\/em> and other hi-fi magazines to learn about signal-to-noise, bandwidth frequency response, and equipment specs. She took a recording class at an experimental college.<\/p>\n<div class=\"side-right\" style=\"width: 33%\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/fea-audio-music-engineering-program.jpg\" alt=\"professor stands in front of a large sound board in a recording studio\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/audio-music-engineering-program-milestone-405132\/\">The art and science of sound<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>The University\u2019s $3 million investment in a new state-of-the-art recording studio, control room, mixing rooms, and sound design lab is a major milestone for Rochester\u2019s now six-year-old audio and music engineering program.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3><strong>\u2018We\u2019ll see how the guys feel\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Her first engineering job was as a production engineer at ABC Studios, making copies of recordings. When she asked Phil Kaye, president of ABC Recording Studios, for a recording job, Kaye agreed. However, he added, \u201cwe\u2019ll see how the guys feel about having a woman in the control room.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople hear that now and react, \u2018what a horrible thing for him to say.\u2019 But I didn\u2019t take offense at it,\u201d Jones says. \u201cThat was just the way it was.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She found that \u201cthe best thing I could do was not pretend that I could do everything,\u201d Jones says. \u201cI learned very early on to rely on mentors, people who were vested in my success just by virtue of my asking questions of them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She also discovered that the \u201clow expectations people had of my capabilities\u201d\u2014because of her gender\u2014actually worked to her advantage. It was that much easier to exceed expectations. \u201cThey didn\u2019t expect much, so when I delivered, I could do no wrong,\u201d Jones says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ll never know how many jobs I didn\u2019t get because of my gender, but I\u2019m a very \u2018glass half full\u2019 person, so I always think about the work I did get.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Her first credit as an engineer was for John Mayall\u2019s <em>Hard Core Package<\/em> in 1977. Since then\u2014at ABC, Automatt, Capitol, as an independent engineer and now Skywalker Sound\u2014she has worked with a broad range of artists, including Herbie Hancock, Rosemary Clooney, and Carlos Santana. She helped with the score for Francis Ford Coppola\u2019s <em>Apocalypse Now<\/em>. She is a past chair of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/National_Academy_of_Recording_Arts_and_Sciences\">National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences<\/a> Board of Trustees, the organization that awards Grammys, and in 2018 was inducted into the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/TEC_Awards\">TEC Awards<\/a> Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n<p>Even now, Jones says, women still face challenges in the industry. \u201cAnd the only way you can overcome that is by taking the opportunities as they come, by raising your hand and saying yes to anything\u2014even if you don\u2019t feel completely comfortable. Part of learning is failing and trying to figure out what it is you don\u2019t know.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><strong>\u2018She\u2019s inspiring a whole generation\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Jones offered plenty of other advice for students. For example:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Talk to clients well in advance of a recording session about the kind of sound they want.<\/li>\n<li>Sketch out in detail a floor plan for the placement of every mike and instrument in the studio. \u201cWe do this every session\u201d\u2014spending a day or two if necessary, Jones says. \u201cThe last thing you want is to wander to around during a session trying to figure out why something\u2019s not working.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>Be methodical in labeling every mike, every channel, every track, and storing it in a folder for later reference.<\/li>\n<li>Listen to all kinds of music, even the music you don\u2019t necessarily enjoy. \u201cIt\u2019s amazing, the sounds you can discover,\u201d Jones says.<\/li>\n<li>Avoid the overuse of compression, a technique for leveling out the peaks and valleys in a soundtrack by turning down the volume peaks while increasing the quietest parts.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>She had an opportunity to reinforce that last point during the master class, as four students took turns at the console, calling up their recording projects for Jones to comment on.<\/p>\n<p>One of the mixes was a nicely rendered jazz piece written by another student featuring piano, saxophone, electric guitar, electric bass and drum kit. However, it had \u201cso much compression everywhere that nothing breathes,\u201d Jones said. \u201cEven when you get to the loudest part of the sax solo, I don\u2019t feel that \u2018ah-ha\u2019 moment of someone having achieved greatness over the last 24 bars.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI always have to get back to the composition,\u201d she tells the students. \u201cI always consider that my job as an engineer and mixer is to really serve what somebody wrote. And (in this case) I would feel that\u2019s not what the composer intended.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Alexa Silverman \u201921, a business major who is earning a minor in audio and music engineering, says it was \u201csuch an amazing opportunity to have someone of her caliber come to the University, not only to give a lecture about her life experiences, but to really engage with what the students themselves are working on.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEspecially as a female engineer of her caliber, she\u2019s inspiring a whole generation of audio and music engineering students to pursue their careers and not be deterred by the glass ceiling that she definitely broke for us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Silverman says wants to work in the music industry, \u201cwhether it\u2019s through publishing, or marketing for record labels. I just want to make a difference.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She couldn\u2019t find a better role model than Leslie Ann Jones.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During a recent master class, four-time Grammy Winner and Skywalker Sound director Leslie Ann Jones was impressed to find that nearly half of the University of Rochester students gathered were women.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":286,"featured_media":405952,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[116],"tags":[31972,4906,18632,37222],"class_list":["post-405152","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sci-tech","tag-audio-and-music-engineering","tag-diversity","tag-hajim-school-of-engineering-and-applied-sciences","tag-quality-education"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Pioneer urges women audio engineers to \u2018raise your hands\u2019 at every opportunity<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Pioneer urges women audio engineers to \u2018raise your hands\u2019 at every opportunity\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"During a recent master class, four-time Grammy Winner and Skywalker Sound director Leslie Ann Jones was impressed to find that nearly half of the University of Rochester students gathered were women.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"News Center\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2019-10-31T18:58:18+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2019-11-01T12:10:07+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/www.rochester.edu\/newscenter\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/fea-leslie-ann-jones-audio-music-engineering.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1000\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"600\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Bob Marcotte\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Bob Marcotte\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"6 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Bob Marcotte\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e0d8d271cd290d592461fa9cefca013b\"},\"headline\":\"Pioneer urges women audio engineers to \u2018raise your hands\u2019 at every opportunity\",\"datePublished\":\"2019-10-31T18:58:18+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2019-11-01T12:10:07+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":1233,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/leslie-ann-jones-pioneer-women-audio-engineers-405152\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rochester.edu\\\/newscenter\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2019\\\/10\\\/fea-leslie-ann-jones-audio-music-engineering.jpg\",\"keywords\":[\"Audio and Music Engineering\",\"diversity\",\"Hajim School of Engineering and Applied Sciences\",\"quality education\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Science &amp; 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